Comments on: The end of the Internet as an open playground: Moral duty or censorship? http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/ ReputationDefender Blog | Online Privacy, Online Reputation Management, Identity Management Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:45:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: handbag ebay http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-766 handbag ebay Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:17:10 +0000 http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/#comment-766 [...] and auction sites to filter illegal or harmful content. Is this the Internet of the future? First thttp://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral...French handbag eBay over fakes The Register French court acts ebay must pay ??30.6m ?38.8m in [...] [...] and auction sites to filter illegal or harmful content. Is this the Internet of the future? First thttp://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral…French handbag eBay over fakes The Register French court acts ebay must pay ??30.6m ?38.8m in [...]

]]> By: mrwizzard http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-531 mrwizzard Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:39:37 +0000 http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/#comment-531 Well, usenet on isp's suck anyway, very limited at the start, and most people use 3rd party services for binary and very large text downloads, its $24 a month at the best provider for unlimited... alot use this for warez and porn etc... as you get your bandwidth MAXED when downloading and there is no Que, compared with IRC and P2P, Usenet is THE place to get your stuff right away when you want it, as fast as you want it. if you had a 10-20mbit connection, you will certainly be downloading at 10-20mbit.... its awsome. Now a few places also offer SSL Secured accounts as well, so there is no way for an ISP to even tell what your doing. The only solution is to block the port completely, and in that case since the 3rd party usenet provider would start loosing money, they would just offer it on a wide range of ports or Proxys. So its really useless unless these people looking for childporn are really stupid.... Well, usenet on isp’s suck anyway, very limited at the start, and most people use 3rd party services for binary and very large text downloads, its $24 a month at the best provider for unlimited… alot use this for warez and porn etc… as you get your bandwidth MAXED when downloading and there is no Que, compared with IRC and P2P, Usenet is THE place to get your stuff right away when you want it, as fast as you want it.

if you had a 10-20mbit connection, you will certainly be downloading at 10-20mbit…. its awsome.

Now a few places also offer SSL Secured accounts as well, so there is no way for an ISP to even tell what your doing. The only solution is to block the port completely, and in that case since the 3rd party usenet provider would start loosing money, they would just offer it on a wide range of ports or Proxys.

So its really useless unless these people looking for childporn are really stupid….

]]> By: CyberWolf http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-435 CyberWolf Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:32:53 +0000 http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/#comment-435 i understand everyone's opinion,but just hear this out. Do you really think that just because your "ISP" filters the content that the problem is really solved?what we need isn't filtering... its adequate,honest funding for police enforcement. Politicians don't fund police forces if there isn't something in it for them. I respect all officers out there, but to be honest, they are extremely out of date. Criminals are now more advanced then the police force. Trust me, blocking the problem wont solve it. i understand everyone’s opinion,but just hear this out. Do you really think that just because your “ISP” filters the content that the problem is really solved?what we need isn’t filtering… its adequate,honest funding for police enforcement. Politicians don’t fund police forces if there isn’t something in it for them. I respect all officers out there, but to be honest, they are extremely out of date. Criminals are now more advanced then the police force. Trust me, blocking the problem wont solve it.

]]> By: mm.ie http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-344 mm.ie Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:43:58 +0000 http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/#comment-344 Ah the fog of obfuscation. I believe your article is well written but badly researched and overlooks one basic fact – Child pornography (aka: child abuse material) is illegal and is produced by inflicting life long pain and suffering on the most vulnerable members of our society. Selling/ making / possessing a fake handbag is hardly the same thing. In Scandinavia there is active web filtering going on in most ISPs. It is done at a simple DNS level and while it is easy to circumvent it still acts as a deterrent to idiots searching and trying to access web-based child exploitation/abuse material. It is the ISPs who filter the http get commands and check a black list supplied by the Police and return a STOP page if it matches. The STOP page informs the user why they have been blocked and allows contact detail for appeal. The list contains only sites that supply material which is illegal according to the laws of that country. Child sexual abuse material (aka. child pornography or even god forbid kiddie porn) is a social disaster for society. Never before in the history of mankind has there been this ease of access to an illegal material from the privacy of ones own home; thousands and thousands of white, middle class tax paying pillars of society do just that every day. Idiots? Sickos? Curious? The fact is that there are many ways to access this material from Newsgroups, IRC to the web and any effort to restrict access should be applauded. Those who really want to access it will always be able to but it should not be easy. Newsgroups make it easy. Blocking them makes sense – morally, ethically, legally. mm.ie Ah the fog of obfuscation.

I believe your article is well written but badly researched and overlooks one basic fact – Child pornography (aka: child abuse material) is illegal and is produced by inflicting life long pain and suffering on the most vulnerable members of our society. Selling/ making / possessing a fake handbag is hardly the same thing.
In Scandinavia there is active web filtering going on in most ISPs. It is done at a simple DNS level and while it is easy to circumvent it still acts as a deterrent to idiots searching and trying to access web-based child exploitation/abuse material. It is the ISPs who filter the http get commands and check a black list supplied by the Police and return a STOP page if it matches. The STOP page informs the user why they have been blocked and allows contact detail for appeal. The list contains only sites that supply material which is illegal according to the laws of that country.
Child sexual abuse material (aka. child pornography or even god forbid kiddie porn) is a social disaster for society. Never before in the history of mankind has there been this ease of access to an illegal material from the privacy of ones own home; thousands and thousands of white, middle class tax paying pillars of society do just that every day. Idiots? Sickos? Curious?
The fact is that there are many ways to access this material from Newsgroups, IRC to the web and any effort to restrict access should be applauded. Those who really want to access it will always be able to but it should not be easy. Newsgroups make it easy. Blocking them makes sense – morally, ethically, legally.
mm.ie

]]> By: Dan Waldron http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Dan Waldron Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:16:33 +0000 http://www.reputationdefenderblog.com/2008/07/02/the-end-of-the-internet-as-an-open-playground-moral-duty-or-censorship/#comment-335 I discovered your homepage by coincidence. Very interesting posts and well written. I will put your site on my blogroll. :-) I discovered your homepage by coincidence.
Very interesting posts and well written.
I will put your site on my blogroll.
:-)

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